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	<title>Comments on: Payback time of PV and other micro gen technologies</title>
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		<title>By: iain</title>
		<link>http://www.sustainableenergyblog.org/posts/2007/09/20/payback-time-of-pv-and-other-micro-gen-technologies/comment-page-1/#comment-34</link>
		<dc:creator>iain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Sep 2007 05:55:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Christian,

I&#039;ve already added energy bulletin. In fact adam (see above comments) is the guy who started up energy bulletin. I&#039;ve now added The Oil Drum and Robert Rapier to our list of other blogs.

cheers, Iain.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Christian,</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve already added energy bulletin. In fact adam (see above comments) is the guy who started up energy bulletin. I&#8217;ve now added The Oil Drum and Robert Rapier to our list of other blogs.</p>
<p>cheers, Iain.</p>
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		<title>By: Christian</title>
		<link>http://www.sustainableenergyblog.org/posts/2007/09/20/payback-time-of-pv-and-other-micro-gen-technologies/comment-page-1/#comment-32</link>
		<dc:creator>Christian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Sep 2007 02:48:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Can I also suggest adding The Oil Drum, Robert Rapier and Energy Bulletin to the links</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can I also suggest adding The Oil Drum, Robert Rapier and Energy Bulletin to the links</p>
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		<title>By: Christian</title>
		<link>http://www.sustainableenergyblog.org/posts/2007/09/20/payback-time-of-pv-and-other-micro-gen-technologies/comment-page-1/#comment-31</link>
		<dc:creator>Christian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Sep 2007 02:47:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Iain,

I found this NASA paper that claims an energy payback time of as little as 3.8 years (abstract only)

http://adsabs.harvard.edu/abs/1977STIN...7724581L</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Iain,</p>
<p>I found this NASA paper that claims an energy payback time of as little as 3.8 years (abstract only)</p>
<p><a href="http://adsabs.harvard.edu/abs/1977STIN...7724581L" rel="nofollow">http://adsabs.harvard.edu/abs/1977STIN&#8230;7724581L</a></p>
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		<title>By: iain</title>
		<link>http://www.sustainableenergyblog.org/posts/2007/09/20/payback-time-of-pv-and-other-micro-gen-technologies/comment-page-1/#comment-30</link>
		<dc:creator>iain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Sep 2007 01:23:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I should add that the CSIRO newsletter that Adam refers to gives an average energy payback for roof mounted PV of 4 years.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I should add that the CSIRO newsletter that Adam refers to gives an average energy payback for roof mounted PV of 4 years.</p>
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		<title>By: iain</title>
		<link>http://www.sustainableenergyblog.org/posts/2007/09/20/payback-time-of-pv-and-other-micro-gen-technologies/comment-page-1/#comment-29</link>
		<dc:creator>iain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Sep 2007 01:20:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The CSIRO report presents an excellent summary of the energy payback times. Have you seen any similar information on economic payback in Australia?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The CSIRO report presents an excellent summary of the energy payback times. Have you seen any similar information on economic payback in Australia?</p>
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		<title>By: adam</title>
		<link>http://www.sustainableenergyblog.org/posts/2007/09/20/payback-time-of-pv-and-other-micro-gen-technologies/comment-page-1/#comment-26</link>
		<dc:creator>adam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Sep 2007 00:24:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hey Iain,

Check out this generally favorable summary of the research from the (first published in excellent but sadly now finished CSIRO Sustainability Newsletter):
http://www.energybulletin.net/17219.html

There are questions to be raised about any energy accounting system, there are *so many* hidden fossil fuel subsidies, and so methodology or setting different system boundaries can produce very different results.  Jeff Vail introduces these issues in an essay at The Oil Drum, you might be interested in:
http://www.theoildrum.com/node/2892

Best, Adam</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hey Iain,</p>
<p>Check out this generally favorable summary of the research from the (first published in excellent but sadly now finished CSIRO Sustainability Newsletter):<br />
<a href="http://www.energybulletin.net/17219.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.energybulletin.net/17219.html</a></p>
<p>There are questions to be raised about any energy accounting system, there are *so many* hidden fossil fuel subsidies, and so methodology or setting different system boundaries can produce very different results.  Jeff Vail introduces these issues in an essay at The Oil Drum, you might be interested in:<br />
<a href="http://www.theoildrum.com/node/2892" rel="nofollow">http://www.theoildrum.com/node/2892</a></p>
<p>Best, Adam</p>
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